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Following are a collection of reader responses to stories or letters to the editor for the third week of January 2024. They have been edited slightly for readability. 

Got something you want to add? Send an email to editor Marshall Jones at mjones@infonews.ca.

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iN RESPONSE to the January 20 newsletter editorial on the lack of winter in Thompson-Okanagan

I know it's not Penticton, but there's snow higher up in Osoyoos! —  Sheree Stokoe, via email

Image Credit: SUBMITTED/ Sheree Stokoe

BC bar fined $3,000 for clearing drinks from table 12 minutes late

This is government overreach at its best! — Andre Aranha, via iNFOnews.ca

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People are getting robbed and stabbed everywhere, drugs are running rampant, people are getting out of jail hours after committing serious harm to others or property, and you fine some $3,000 for being 12 minutes late. Welcome to the BC government! — Josh Fouhse, via iNFOnews.ca

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This is an example of micro-managing. I hate it. Why doesn’t the government go find a drug dealer to bust or some fool smoking meth on transit. — Dana Seaman, via iNFOnews.ca

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This is a crazy level of regulatory enforcement. How proud the inspectors and police must have been over this big bust. C’mon. Surely there are more important matters to be addressing, and a $3,000 fine? Really? The government solved some pretty serious societal misconduct here! — William Mastop, via iNFOnews.ca

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The bar was fined for half a glass at one table? Who cares? The bar was probably aware at the time but was showing courtesy to a customer. One half drink at one table eh? The whole world is going crazy. — Bruce Galliford, via iNFOnews.ca

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I would love to know how this was a threat to public safety. The bar probably just got understaffed when the bartender was fired. I hope I get to meet the guy who issued this ticket some day. — Corey Watts, via iNFOnews.ca

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This is over the top. Two people were sitting quietly. If it was a rowdy place with lots of unfinished drinks, then fair enough. This is just unjust. — Tracy Jones, via iNFOnews.ca

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The fine seems high for the infraction and for it being first one. — Brian Hobenshield, via iNFOnews.ca

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We live in a “free” country. What a joke, there are too many pencil pushers and rules to justify a stifling government bureaucracy. — Jonathan Toy, via iNFOnews.ca

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There was really no crime here, just overreach by government. The officials involved could have simply mentioned the law and asked the patrons to finish their drinks. Instead they chose a tactic to make sure they weren’t welcome in this establishment, and now other establishments as well as in the minds of the public. The regulations should have allowed a $0 fine at the option of the judge. With a $0 fine, the judge could have sent the right message back through the system. The problem points back to the regulators that wrote the regulations. Mean little minds should not be allowed to use the system to impose unjust hardships on the rest of us. These regulators should be sought out, removed and punished, and the regulations changed. Just my common sense opinion. Are our elected officials listening? I invite you to discuss this article with your MLA. — Ed Mierzewski, via iNFOnews.ca

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That whole branch of liquor inspectors should be dismantled. With no previous offence, a warning should have been issued. It would have had the same result for the facility. It’s not any different than this crazy concept of putting minors in the bar environment to try to nail a server which in most cases forgot to ask for ID. It is sad to see how low the liquor branch will go to appease the NDP government. That whole branch should be dismantled and replaced. — Rebecca Halldorson, via iNFOnews.ca

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North American puritan culture needs to end. In Europe, this would be a non-issue. — Matthew Hunter, via iNFOnews.ca

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Wow good job government, I feel so much safer, lol. — Akkbar Kuar, via iNFOnews.ca

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Absolutely ridiculous. We fine bars $3,000 because two patrons were 15 minutes late finishing their drinks, but never issue a fine when people leave out garbage and get wildlife like black bears killed by conservation officers. Over 600 bears are killed every year from rule breaking humans. Who died because these people didn’t finish their drinks within the time frame? What a joke. — Tara Geddon, via iNFOnews.ca

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What a dirty trick to pull. — Curtis Moss, via iNFOnews.ca

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This is an example of ridiculous bureaucratic power with no accountability for their actions. — David Nagle, via iNFOnews.ca

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I’m baffled. Why does this law even exist? To what purpose does it exist? — J Plourde, via iNFOnews.ca

Kamloops man lived for four years in dugout camp before it was dismantled

Man is the environmental hazard! Leave these people alone. What right do we have to say they cannot live their way on the land. Those do gooders that believe you have to have a house worth hundreds of thousands need to open their hearts. The land is ours, not the politicians. Everyone has a right go choose. — Peggy Copeland, via iNFOnews.ca 

Truck convoy set to disrupt traffic from Okanagan to Kamloops

This is just a ridiculous self-serving money grab. This group’s “founder” is just trying to tap into people’s politics to make money off her little brand. Go find this silly “resistance’s” website and what you’ll see front-and-centre is the “merch”. Don’t fall for this people. This isn’t a movement, it is just a ploy to make a buck. — Steven Morehouse, via iNFOnews.ca 

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Search YouTube for any episode of "Hogan’s Heroes". A chance to look at real fools in action! — Garey Jonson, via iNFOnews.ca

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What is their problem? It sounds like an illegal road blockage to me. They should be denied media coverage and given police coverage. — Donna-Jay Carlson, via iNFOnews.ca 

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To all RCMP detachments affected, bust them. I suggest huge fines for the organizers. We normal citizens have no time or patience for anarchy from a gang of disgruntled people. It’s time for these guys to grow up and figure out a way to protest that doesn’t alienate the rest of the populace. I call them anarchistic assholes hiding amongst the crowd of sheep that swallowed their paranoid divisive hateful rhetoric.Talk about the need for deportation orders. — Becky Dawson, via iNFOnews.ca 

THOMPSON: Most harmful thing crossing border from US? Right wing extremism

Wake up Canada! Do your homework, but just absorbing the information in this column should give you pause. — Bonnie Derry, via iNFOnews.ca

'So much kindness': Penticton Walmart cashier has a heart of gold

Way to go, Sue! — Emma Moorhouse, via iNFOnews.ca 

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This is such a sweet story. It made my day. Thanks to the reporter and Mrs. Squires. — Robert Bishop, via iNFOnews.ca

'Unnecessary and extreme': Penticton couple suing RCMP alleging traffic stop got violent

I had a similar thing happen 14 years back in Osoyoos, and six months later the officer in question was in trouble for needlessly pulling his weapon and dropping it. The police have traditionally hired more of the 'tough guys' and this has always been a bad idea. You can teach anyone to defend themselves but you can’t teach the jerk out of a bully. — Dick Dawson, via iNFOnewsca 

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iNFOnews and Ground News are the only internet outlets to even mention this situation. What are the names of the other officers involved? Our communities are tired of the RCMP hiding behind a wall of false protection. — Deborah Bee, via iNFOnews.ca

Letter to the Editor 

Last week I went to a nearby pizza shop to order a pizza. A homeless man, who appeared to be in his early 20s and looked high on something, was standing unevenly behind me. He must have heard me ask what the cost of the pizza was, because he reached over and put about 3 or 4 crumpled 20 dollar bills on the counter, telling the cashier that he would pay for my pizza. I turned around quickly and said, "That's OK. I got this," then thanked him very much for his generosity. The young man scooped up his bills.

After I paid for my order, I turned back towards him and asked: "How are you doing?" and he said, "Well, some days are better and some days are worse." I wish there were more places in Kelowna where people in a similar situation could go to receive help. Last September the B.C. government announced it will expand involuntary care for those with mental health and addictions issues, and open highly secure facilities to house people detained under the Mental Health Act. Premier David Eby said that the government would open mental health units at correctional facilities, as well as at regional facilities, that would provide long-term care and housing for those with mental health needs.

What about involuntary care for those who are not living in correctional facilities? I realize that involuntary care is a very controversial issue, with several pros and cons. But until the federal and provincial governments enact involuntary care legislation across the entire country, and provide the funding and the spaces to treat people, the situation is only going to get worse. What comes to mind is a line from a famous poem by William Butler Yeats: "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;”

To make a real dent in Canada's growing drug epidemic, there first needs to be amendments to all 13 provincial Mental Health Acts, the Canada Health Act, the Criminal Code, and the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. The now suspended BC United Party had a platform titled "Better is Possible," which was a plan to overhaul the delivery of B.C. mental health services, and build a recovery-oriented system of care. From the "Better is Possible" webpage: "Compassionate involuntary treatment: Bring forward legislation allowing the limited use of involuntary treatment to keep our most vulnerable youth and adults at risk of harm to themselves or others safe at modernized, compassionate facilities with 24/7 psychiatric and medical supports."

On Feb. 2, 2023, former BC United Party leader Kevin Falcon said: "We will also implement involuntary care where necessary. Involuntary care must always be a last resort, but we recognize there are some cases that require this type of intervention and support for both adults and youth." The Liberal Party of Canada will choose its new leader on March 9, who will lead the party into the 2025 federal election, which must take place on or before Oct. 20.

Will involuntary care become an election issue? It will become an election issue if both the general public and the media (print, online, radio, TV) across the country keep raising the topic during candidate campaign stops, interviews, town halls, and debates. In Okanagan ridings, do you think any candidates for Member of Parliament will promise to support legislation to amend the Canada Health Act, the Criminal Code, and the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, to allow for involuntary treatment? If so, from which party or parties?

Involuntary treatment and care is mentioned in the May 21, 2024 BC Today episode: Road to Recovery: What kind of support do families of people with addiction need? (at the 16:30 mark and the 21:30 mark).

— David Buckna, via email

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