March 25, 2015 - 5:00 AM
VANCOUVER - Months before being arrested in an elaborate RCMP sting operation, John Nuttall tells an undercover officer he worries that he is being set up by the police.
Video played for a B.C. Supreme Court jury on Tuesday shows the accused terrorist sitting in the passenger seat of a pickup truck expressing his concerns to an undercover officer, who is posing as an Arab businessman.
"It's crossed my mind that I could be getting set up and as soon as I hand over the plans I'm bound to go to Guantanamo Bay," says the recently converted Muslim.
Nuttall and his wife and co-accused Amanda Korody are on trial for allegedly plotting to blow up the B.C. legislature on Canada Day 2013.
"I'm going to tell you the truth because you're my brother," he tells the officer, whose identity is protected by a publication ban.
"I only trust you 99 per cent. There's this one per cent of me that is still paranoid."
The footage was taken by a hidden camera in early May 2013 and shows a sallow-faced Nuttall with long hair and a wiry, grey-tinged beard, wearing a dark, pinstripe suit recently bought for him by the undercover officer.
The court heard the officer invite Nuttall to accompany him to Whistler the following day to hand an encrypted hard drive to the officer's associates that allegedly contained details of Nuttall's plot.
Nuttall furtively rolls up the truck's window as he tells the officer his ultimate plan is to take a passenger train hostage and force the government to release Omar Khadr from prison.
Khadr was arrested in 2002 at the age of 15 for throwing a grenade that killed an American soldier in Afghanistan.
Nuttall explains how Khadr was part of his inspiration as a Muslim and that he expects the 28-year-old former Guantanamo Bay prisoner will join him in jihad, or holy war, against Canada.
There is no indication that any communication has ever occurred between Nuttall and Khadr.
"I've already crossed that line of no return," says Nuttall. "I'm going to die, which is what I want, or I am going to be set up."
"Inshallah," replies the officer, using the Arabic phrase that means "If Allah wills it." Though the officer says repeatedly throughout the conversation that the door is open if Nuttall decides he wants to drop out of any plan.
"I have no more doubt," says Nuttall following the officer's reassurances.
"If you guys were really trying to set me up you would just give me a fake bomb and tell me to go bomb a target and the bomb wouldn't go off and I would be grabbed."
The jury has heard that police ensured the bombs allegedly planted by Nuttall and Korody at the B.C. legislature were inert.
The trial also heard on Tuesday how police were concerned the terror suspect may have been inspired in the immediate aftermath of the Boston Marathon bombing to attempt a similar attack in B.C.
But an undercover officer told the court he was reassured after speaking on the phone with Nuttall that the man wasn't planning an imminent copycat bombing.
Fewer than three months later Nuttall and Korody, were taken into police custody after allegedly planting homemade pressure-cooker bombs at the provincial legislature in Victoria that were similar to those used in the marathon attack.
The court has seen video in which Nuttall estimated the death toll for the planned attack could reach as high as 200 people.
Both Nuttall and Korody have pleaded not guilty to four terrorism-related charges.
POLICE CONCERNED BOSTON BOMBING WOULD INSPIRE ACCUSED B.C. TERRORIST: TRIAL
VANCOUVER - In the days after the Boston Marathon bombing, an undercover officer says there were concerns that an RCMP terror suspect might attempt a similar attack in British Columbia.
The officer, who can't be named, told a B.C. Supreme Court jury that he was reassured after speaking on the phone with John Nuttall that the man wasn't planning an imminent copycat bombing.
The trial has heard that less than three months later, Nuttall and his co-accused Amanda Korody planted bombs like those used in the marathon attack on the lawn of the B.C. Legislature.
Nuttall's defence lawyer Marilyn Sandford went through RCMP notes for the jury, outlining how the undercover officer posed as an Arab businessman to first made contact with Nuttall in February 2013.
The officer gave Nuttall gifts and paid him to perform various business errands, such as delivering unmarked packages.
The undercover officer confirmed under cross-examination that one main objectives for police was to give Nuttall the impression the officer was involved in criminal activities.
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